I don't know if you took note, or have seen Captain America: The Winter Soldier, but the closing after-credits scenes showed something rather fascinating. That fascinating item or thought I had in mind was also backed up by something that was said by Joss Whedon in a recent interview with Empire Magazine.
If you haven't seen Cap 2, or missed the end scenes, or just don't want to be spoiled with conjecture, now is the best time to close the window and move along. But beware, you'll probably be spoiled somewhere else anyway, so what the heck, you might as well stick around. Right?
SPOILERS (?) AHEAD
In one of the after-credits scenes of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, we see Baron von Strucker (Thomas Kretschmann) saying that despite their loss, there are still many HYDRA bases in operation. We also see that he has Loki's scepter and in two very small cells, we get our first glimpses of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. They're both exihibiting their powers, with quicksilver having more of an issue with his.
We also know that these two new characters will be in The Avengers: Age of Ultron.
This leads me to believe that they won't be good guys in the upcoming Avengers movie initially, but, possibly, they'll convert later on? Who knows what Whedon has planned but I'm sure it's good.
Now we've seen the scepter, and in ABC's Agents of SHIELD, we saw the blue alien body and its fluids that helped bring Agent Phil Coulson back from the dead.
Between these two potential factors of the scepter alien fluids, we have something of a potential here that we haven't seen before.
That being actual mutant powers, brought about by something other than natural mutations, but based off of the inception or application of scientific methods.
If you dwell on it, up until now all of our Marvel Cinematic Universe characters have been science derived:
- Captain America (Super Soldier Serum),
- Hulk (Gamma Radiation experiment),
- Iron Man (Science and technology),
- Thor (Magic from another world, and God-like),
- Hawkeye/Clint Barton (Good with his aim) and
- The Black Widow (Just ass-kicking talented at what she does.)
Thor is from another world (and Marvel may have retained all the rights they needed for him) but everyone else is human gone awry or devised via the application of science. Aside from Thor, no one woke up changed or having evolved to their state, internally.
No one is powered by mutant powers that spawned out of them. And if you watch ABC's Agents of SHIELD, you know that they've persistently denied the existence of natural born, or mutation-based powers.
And there may be very good reason for it.
That's because 20th Century FOX nabbed up specific rights with the movies they've been making... (Fantastic Four, X-Men, etc.) and those rights include what appear to be natural born mutant powers.
Hence, Marvel Entertainment has had to steer clear of that same thing.
But if what I think we're seeing is true, they're getting there via a different route, or other sources that spawn mutant powers.
This isn't new to the Marvel Entertainment movies. They've slightly altered various characters and origins and backstories to better fit their Marvel Cinematic Universe, and doing it well.
Now with Fox having injected their own version of Quicksilver into the latest X-Man movie (And I believe they did so after hearing that Marvel was using Quicksilver...), we have to see how Marvel gets to using Quicksilver.
And if it's via energy experimentation in one form or another, then Marvel has an open book on their hands, on who else they might be able to bring into their movie world, granted, no one else has bought up the rights to them.
After thought:
Despite it being the right decision at the time, I bet Marvel has to be kicking themselves for selling the rights to some of their characters, such as Wolverine, X-Men, Spider-Man, X-Force, Deadpool, and others. But it is what it is. I liken it to when WB blew of Joss Whedon's spec script for a Wonder Woman movie... and now he's their greatest competition.
Oops.
Side subject:
Spider-Man RUMOR for Age of Ultron
So what we do know is that though Ultron will be a bit powered down from his comics incarnation, we also know that Dr. Hank Pym won't be the one creating him. Money is on Ultron coming out of something Tony Stark does. But it probably won't be JARVIS, since the man who voices JARVIS will be playing The Vision.
But here's an interesting rumor I heard and snarfed at:
I was performing at a disc dog demonstration with Vader (Vader's World), and one of my peers said that Spider-Man will be in the next Avengers movie.
I tried not to be too uptight with them when I said that Sony has those rights and probably would never let that happen. Even though she said she had a family member in on the production of the next Avengers movie.
Rumors... you have to hate them sometimes.
But then sometime back director/writer, Max Landis, made a tweet that he's "Crazy about Marvel getting Spider-Man back,..." but that has never been followed up by any other news. Nor can I tell when/how/if he's actually associated with the production. After the first tweet, he then sent out, "...there's a chance I wasn't supposed to tweet that..." and "Ha Ha 5 months from now this is all gonna be real interesting"
It sounds like crap, considering if he tweeted then deleted it. But a tweet is forever, no matter how fast you are with that delete key.
And for Sony to let their character show up in a Marvel/Disney film seems so remote, it's stupid.
So don't hold your breath, despite the logical good it would do Sony to get Spider-Man some Avengers love like the Hulk did in the first movie.
You'd like to think though, huh?
If you haven't seen Cap 2, or missed the end scenes, or just don't want to be spoiled with conjecture, now is the best time to close the window and move along. But beware, you'll probably be spoiled somewhere else anyway, so what the heck, you might as well stick around. Right?
SPOILERS (?) AHEAD
In one of the after-credits scenes of Captain America: The Winter Soldier, we see Baron von Strucker (Thomas Kretschmann) saying that despite their loss, there are still many HYDRA bases in operation. We also see that he has Loki's scepter and in two very small cells, we get our first glimpses of the Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. They're both exihibiting their powers, with quicksilver having more of an issue with his.
We also know that these two new characters will be in The Avengers: Age of Ultron.
This leads me to believe that they won't be good guys in the upcoming Avengers movie initially, but, possibly, they'll convert later on? Who knows what Whedon has planned but I'm sure it's good.
Now we've seen the scepter, and in ABC's Agents of SHIELD, we saw the blue alien body and its fluids that helped bring Agent Phil Coulson back from the dead.
Between these two potential factors of the scepter alien fluids, we have something of a potential here that we haven't seen before.
That being actual mutant powers, brought about by something other than natural mutations, but based off of the inception or application of scientific methods.
If you dwell on it, up until now all of our Marvel Cinematic Universe characters have been science derived:
- Captain America (Super Soldier Serum),
- Hulk (Gamma Radiation experiment),
- Iron Man (Science and technology),
- Thor (Magic from another world, and God-like),
- Hawkeye/Clint Barton (Good with his aim) and
- The Black Widow (Just ass-kicking talented at what she does.)
Thor is from another world (and Marvel may have retained all the rights they needed for him) but everyone else is human gone awry or devised via the application of science. Aside from Thor, no one woke up changed or having evolved to their state, internally.
No one is powered by mutant powers that spawned out of them. And if you watch ABC's Agents of SHIELD, you know that they've persistently denied the existence of natural born, or mutation-based powers.
And there may be very good reason for it.
That's because 20th Century FOX nabbed up specific rights with the movies they've been making... (Fantastic Four, X-Men, etc.) and those rights include what appear to be natural born mutant powers.
Hence, Marvel Entertainment has had to steer clear of that same thing.
But if what I think we're seeing is true, they're getting there via a different route, or other sources that spawn mutant powers.
This isn't new to the Marvel Entertainment movies. They've slightly altered various characters and origins and backstories to better fit their Marvel Cinematic Universe, and doing it well.
Now with Fox having injected their own version of Quicksilver into the latest X-Man movie (And I believe they did so after hearing that Marvel was using Quicksilver...), we have to see how Marvel gets to using Quicksilver.
And if it's via energy experimentation in one form or another, then Marvel has an open book on their hands, on who else they might be able to bring into their movie world, granted, no one else has bought up the rights to them.
After thought:
Despite it being the right decision at the time, I bet Marvel has to be kicking themselves for selling the rights to some of their characters, such as Wolverine, X-Men, Spider-Man, X-Force, Deadpool, and others. But it is what it is. I liken it to when WB blew of Joss Whedon's spec script for a Wonder Woman movie... and now he's their greatest competition.
Oops.
Side subject:
Spider-Man RUMOR for Age of Ultron
So what we do know is that though Ultron will be a bit powered down from his comics incarnation, we also know that Dr. Hank Pym won't be the one creating him. Money is on Ultron coming out of something Tony Stark does. But it probably won't be JARVIS, since the man who voices JARVIS will be playing The Vision.
But here's an interesting rumor I heard and snarfed at:
I was performing at a disc dog demonstration with Vader (Vader's World), and one of my peers said that Spider-Man will be in the next Avengers movie.
I tried not to be too uptight with them when I said that Sony has those rights and probably would never let that happen. Even though she said she had a family member in on the production of the next Avengers movie.
Rumors... you have to hate them sometimes.
But then sometime back director/writer, Max Landis, made a tweet that he's "Crazy about Marvel getting Spider-Man back,..." but that has never been followed up by any other news. Nor can I tell when/how/if he's actually associated with the production. After the first tweet, he then sent out, "...there's a chance I wasn't supposed to tweet that..." and "Ha Ha 5 months from now this is all gonna be real interesting"
It sounds like crap, considering if he tweeted then deleted it. But a tweet is forever, no matter how fast you are with that delete key.
And for Sony to let their character show up in a Marvel/Disney film seems so remote, it's stupid.
So don't hold your breath, despite the logical good it would do Sony to get Spider-Man some Avengers love like the Hulk did in the first movie.
You'd like to think though, huh?
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